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	<title>Comments on: Ziff Davis Spam Part III: The Solution?</title>
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		<title>By: Anon.</title>
		<link>http://www.edcottrell.com/2008/01/07/ziff-davis-spam-part-iii-the-solution/comment-page-1/#comment-111206</link>
		<dc:creator>Anon.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Apr 2009 00:30:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Look, I used to work there in adifferent but related department.  It&#039;s less out of malice and more out of stupidity - the Ziff machine is clunky, and unsubscribes don&#039;t work because no one can fix anything.  The place is understaffed and overworked, and as a result nothing gets done.  Your best bet is to email actual people.  Complain enough and they can remove you manually from the database.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Look, I used to work there in adifferent but related department.  It&#8217;s less out of malice and more out of stupidity &#8211; the Ziff machine is clunky, and unsubscribes don&#8217;t work because no one can fix anything.  The place is understaffed and overworked, and as a result nothing gets done.  Your best bet is to email actual people.  Complain enough and they can remove you manually from the database.</p>
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		<title>By: Unhappy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Unhappy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Mar 2009 16:14:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If I receive any more of their spam (I&#039;ve unsubscribed too many times to remember), I will simply have to start contacting each of their advertisers and express to them that I could never do business with someone who engages in such despicable practices. Start costing Ziff Davis some customers, and they&#039;ll change the way they do business.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If I receive any more of their spam (I&#8217;ve unsubscribed too many times to remember), I will simply have to start contacting each of their advertisers and express to them that I could never do business with someone who engages in such despicable practices. Start costing Ziff Davis some customers, and they&#8217;ll change the way they do business.</p>
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		<title>By: Ed</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Jan 2009 19:12:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If the unsubscribe link worked - I tried, as I have said, dozens of times - I would have been happy with that. As it is, both Ziff Davis Media and Ziff Davis Enterprise are once again spamming me daily. I have given up entirely on getting removed from any of the offending lists and am letting my spam filter delete anything that appears to be from either company.

That said, I have no regrets about posting this list of addresses; if these companies feel entitled to spam recipients who are not interested in hearing from them, then I think it&#039;s only fair that people have some means of talking back about it. The obvious place to direct such a grievance is to the employees and, as relevant, consultants of said companies.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If the unsubscribe link worked &#8211; I tried, as I have said, dozens of times &#8211; I would have been happy with that. As it is, both Ziff Davis Media and Ziff Davis Enterprise are once again spamming me daily. I have given up entirely on getting removed from any of the offending lists and am letting my spam filter delete anything that appears to be from either company.</p>
<p>That said, I have no regrets about posting this list of addresses; if these companies feel entitled to spam recipients who are not interested in hearing from them, then I think it&#8217;s only fair that people have some means of talking back about it. The obvious place to direct such a grievance is to the employees and, as relevant, consultants of said companies.</p>
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		<title>By: ZD Guy</title>
		<link>http://www.edcottrell.com/2008/01/07/ziff-davis-spam-part-iii-the-solution/comment-page-1/#comment-105587</link>
		<dc:creator>ZD Guy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Jan 2009 19:01:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m one of the addresses on this message and am unusual in that I write for both companies. I&#039;m a freelancer so I&#039;m ont an employee and I have no idea how to stop the newsletters.

But you should know that most of the complaints I receive are for newsletters from Ziff Davis Enterprise, publishers of eWEEK, Basline, CIO Insight, etc. Their domain is ziffdavisenterprise.com

The e-mail list you have above is all ziffdavis.com addresses. This is the domain for Ziff Davis Media, publishers of PCMag, EGM, 1Up, etc. Completely differnent company, completely differnt newsletter staffs, in other words your e-mails are definitely going to the wrong people,

To make matters worse, this address list appears to have been constructed before ZDE was split off, so many of the people in it are actually ZDE employees, but their ziffdavis.com addresses don&#039;t work anymore, So those never get delivered. Plus I can see at least 8 people who just don&#039;t work there anymore, and I&#039;m sure there are more.

Just click the damn unsubscribe link at the bottom of the message. You won&#039;t do any better than that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m one of the addresses on this message and am unusual in that I write for both companies. I&#8217;m a freelancer so I&#8217;m ont an employee and I have no idea how to stop the newsletters.</p>
<p>But you should know that most of the complaints I receive are for newsletters from Ziff Davis Enterprise, publishers of eWEEK, Basline, CIO Insight, etc. Their domain is ziffdavisenterprise.com</p>
<p>The e-mail list you have above is all ziffdavis.com addresses. This is the domain for Ziff Davis Media, publishers of PCMag, EGM, 1Up, etc. Completely differnent company, completely differnt newsletter staffs, in other words your e-mails are definitely going to the wrong people,</p>
<p>To make matters worse, this address list appears to have been constructed before ZDE was split off, so many of the people in it are actually ZDE employees, but their ziffdavis.com addresses don&#8217;t work anymore, So those never get delivered. Plus I can see at least 8 people who just don&#8217;t work there anymore, and I&#8217;m sure there are more.</p>
<p>Just click the damn unsubscribe link at the bottom of the message. You won&#8217;t do any better than that.</p>
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		<title>By: andy</title>
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		<dc:creator>andy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Feb 2008 00:59:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I sent this mail list out today. I received about 10 out of replies and link to their new addresses. Of course I promptly forwarded my opt out requests to the new addresses. We&#039;ll see what happens.
This company is one of the reasons congress ends up passing anti-business legislation. They are  scum.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I sent this mail list out today. I received about 10 out of replies and link to their new addresses. Of course I promptly forwarded my opt out requests to the new addresses. We&#8217;ll see what happens.<br />
This company is one of the reasons congress ends up passing anti-business legislation. They are  scum.</p>
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